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6/20/01

Hello, I am writing because I had an abortion done two years and five months ago. I am three months pregnant right now and it has brought back the horrible memory of my abortion. When I had it done two years ago I didn't know what I know now. I went to your web site and found out the horrible way that these procedures are done. I became sick from seeing all those pictures of what my baby went through. When I went, they told me that it wasn't even a baby yet just blood and that it wouldn't hurt it. That was the biggest lie anyone has ever told me, and knowing what I know now I wish I could have my baby and back and hold it and love it. For the last two years and five months I have tried to put it as far back in my mind and leave it there so I don't think about it. I tried to forget that it ever happened but the truth is that I will never forget that I killed my baby on February 3rd 1999. So many nights I have cried myself to sleep and prayed for forgiveness to what I did back then. Being pregnant again I has made me really think that if I am having this baby why did I kill my last one. I am so sorry for what I did and that is not enough and will never be. I have read all the stories of all the girls experiences and I have prayed for all of them as well as myself. I want to tell all the girls that are thinking about having an abortion, don't do it, pray and trust that God will help you out in whatever situation you are in. I know things can be hard to deal with but having an abortion is not the answer to your problems. You will forever carry that with you and you will never forget the day on which it happened. Don't believe all the lies those clinics tell you, take a look at the pictures on this web site and that is what will happen to the innocent and helpless baby that you carry inside of you. I am not judging you but simply asking you to really think about what you are going to do. There are hundreds of girls !
just like you that have gone through having a child and they are doing fine with their baby. Please think about it well and I really hope that you do what is right. I will pray for all of you who need guidance and God's help to give you the strength that you need. Take care and for those of us who already made that mistake, God does forgive, and has mercy on us I send my love to all of you.

C.R.

C.R., congratulations on your bravery.  Many women establish a veil of denial after visiting AbortionTV -- forever attempting to justify their actions, rather than deal with the truth (which is the first stage of recovery).  We are sending you "Jane's Story," the story of one of our volunteers and her abortion -- a story of hope.  We also suggest that you use your experience to help others who are facing unplanned pregnancies.  You can achieve more than you realize.  Finally, we suggest that you seek post abortion counseling to help you deal with the emotions that you're experiencing.  You can find some suggestions at If You've Had an Abortion.

AbortionTV

Dear C.R.--Part of the nature of being human is to make mistakes. Those
who learn from their mistakes and refuse to repeat the same mistake are
on a wise path. When the mistake is abortion, I believe that the expectant
mother who rejects another abortion and chooses "life," is not only on a
wise path but also on a path to a happy life. Please read the letter of
6/21,
from Alejandra & look at the picture of this happy mother & baby boy. I
will be expecting a similar happy letter & photo from you C.R., sometime
next Spring. For the next six months, do take care of yourself and the
baby in your womb. Thank you for sharing your painful story and please
do seek emotional healing, as suggested by AbortionTV editorial comment,
in red. If you live near a crisis pregnancy center, I know they would be
thrilled to see you in person and help your prepare for the arrival of your
child, as well as to more fully recover from the pain of your abortion.
Please feel free to email me, if I may help you with further information.
Best wishes for a healthy baby & happy Mom [You}, in about six months.

Sincerely, -- Ed Hensley -- Staff Volunteer -- Email: <A
HREF="Edh1138@cs.com">Edh1138@cs.com</A>

6/20/01

If you agree that the fetus is just "tissue" try letting a friend stab you in
the arm several times with a knife---isn't it just "tissue"?

Jim

6/20/01

I just visited your site and I have to say that it
made quite an impact on me. I have never had an
abortion myself but I do know of people who have. I
don't know one of them who does not regret it. I can't
judge them for it because I was not in their
prediciment and I am not God. I can't even imagine how
he feels about this. There are so many issues facing
abortion and after reading the actual numbers its
really really scary. I have had a few pregnancy scares
and a few times abortion has come to my mind generally
as a non thinking "scared out of my mind resolution".
I was lucky to not of been pregnant. After seeing your
sight there is no way I could have an abortion now. No
way!!! I was reading one of the stories and it really
really made me sad, one of the girls had a boyfriend
who was going to leave her if she did not get an
abortion, thank goodness they decided not to and opted
for adoption instead. I have one thing to say "if he
boyfriend really loved her and wanted to support her
he would stay with her through everything EVEN if she
kept the baby, he was as much a part of making this
baby as she was, its not just hers, its theirs."
Babies are not easy to raise...they are expensive
etc...its to easy to just walk out when the going gets
tough, but guys, girls don't have that luxury. I can
bet you a high dollar if more guys were sticking with
relationships and loving someone unconditionally and
not getting freaked out that you can't hang out with
your buddies anymore (neither can she) abortions would
be lowered by so much. If any of my friends tell me
they are going to have an abortion i will show them
this sight. I can guarantee you that it will change
their minds.

Lea

6/20/01

I cannot believe that abortion is legal. I've asked myself how could someone
bring themselves to kill not kill murder apart of themselves. I've heard
people say mistakes and a whole lot of useless excuses to commit murder. In
my opinion the person getting an abortion is more guilty then the one
performing it. I just can't find it in myself to forgive either party.
While their out looking for sympathy I just keep thinking of that child
murdered, gone, killed before it had a chance to live. There are a lot of
other choices besides murder. I just have no sympathy for women who kill
their children to cover their mistakes.

Urban

6/19/01

Hello. I really enjoyed looking at your site, all though I have to say that
I did turn my head when I came to the picture part. I am 17 I have a 1 1/2
year old and I am 7 months pregnant. I have never even thought of abortion.
I just wanted to say that if this is not murder then what is? Did you see
the photo of the baby grabbing the doctors hand? These are real alive
breathing heart beating HUMAN BEINGS!!!! I hope that sometime soon people
will realize what they are doing to these helpless things!!
Patsy!

 

6/18/01

Greetings reader,

When I logged onto this site (abortian tv) for an RE project I was disturbed to find quite how biased it is: the idea that both feminists and doctors are aqainst abortian is ridiculous and misleading to any visitors of the site as it is not apparent immeidiately that this site is biased, propaganda in a particually dangerous form. The general feminist idea of abortian is that it is the woman's choice and the suggestion that the woman only has an abortion through pressure is complete and utter crap; some examples being:

(1) A proffesional woman wanting to at least get her career stable and finding herself pregnant- whether in a stable relationship or not, decides to have an abortion. Your pictures of abortions such as salt poisoning are undeniabley disturbing but there are far less brutal abortions availiable. If she is forced to have this child she will resent its ending of her career and will often find out that their mother was 'glad that she had them' but given the chance again she would not have had them.

(2) A teenage girl with school, university and succesful jobs ahead gets pregnant accidentally- certainly not ready for a child at such an age when she may only just have learnt to look after herself independantly. The late Cardinal Winning (the same man who called homosexuality perverted and obviously a man- men should not really be involved in abortian as they never have to carry or take full responsibility and when, and on) offered a 12 year old girl money and support if she kept her child- a horrifying act at least in my eyes. This girl was had barely started secondary school, would have had no qualifications and you have to wonder what would happen when the child grew up, the church stopped its donations, and the childs mother is left unqualified without money or support and a child 12 years junior to her.

(3) An older woman than it is really safe to have a birth, not only is there a risk of deformation and disability but there is risk to the pregnant woman- the claim that abortion is seriously dangerous to pregnant woman is contrasting with the argument about criminalising abortion- woman will always have abortions, whether it is legal or not, simply, if it is illegal all it means that there are no regulations or safety. Most doctors accept this and try to make abortian as painless to the foetus and mother as possible, I hope that you have read this far and discarded this in the light that it is pro-abortion. In fact, women should know what is happening but abortion does not have to be like this and simply giving misleading information turns many against those faced with this terrible choice- those above are not by far the only.

only trying to inform,

reader and writer

2) A teenage girl with school, university and succesful jobs ahead gets pregnant accidentally- certainly not ready for a child at such an age when she may only just have learnt to look after herself independantly. The late Cardinal Winning (the same man who called homosexuality perverted and obviously a man- men should not really be involved in abortian as they never have to carry or take full responsibility and when, and on) offered a 12 year old girl money and support if she kept her child- a horrifying act at least in my eyes. This girl was had barely started secondary school, would have had no qualifications and you have to wonder what would happen when the child grew up, the church stopped its donations, and the childs mother is left unqualified without money or support and a child 12 years junior to her.

________________________________________________

Why can't this 12 year old place her child for adoption? Why is it that every time a women is faced with an unplanned pregnancy that she seems to think that she only has two options. She either aborts, or is forced into giving birth, and then raising this child that she didn't want? Why can't people help to educate these women about the other alternative, and that my friend is ADOPTION. Everyone seems to forget about this life loving alternative.

You also say, men should not really be involved in abortion as they never have to carry or take full responsibility, in case you have forgotten, the man is part of the conception of the child, and like it or not he should have a say so in the situation. Many men would love to take on the responsibility of a baby, so if the father is willing to do this why not let him? There are also many men who would love to adopt a child, why not let them?

So you see, you really havn't informed me about anything.

Karen Howard

AbTv Staff Volunteer

6/18/01


My name is Alicia and I wanted to write my story of my little angel. I am a
20 year old and a first time mother. My daughter was born May 30, 2001, no
it wasn't that long ago but I'm so glad she is here. I found out that I was
pregnant September of 2000. I was working at the time and I wasn't feeling
right all day, I was spotting and thinking to myself that I just had a
period a week or so ago, so I left work early to go to the doctors to take a
test to see if I was pregnant or not and within that hour, I found out that
I was. I wasn't happy but I wasn't mad, I really couldn't explain my
feelings at the time, I was scared and on top of everything, my boyfriend
and I were fighting at the time. So I left the doctors and went to my
friends house to find my boyfriend there and I walked through the door and
the first thing I did was make a motion to my belly, he knew right away and
jumped up.
Within a few days I was relaxed and calm, but still thinking *WOW* I'm going
to be a mom, still trying to kick myself. A few months went by and my
boyfriend and I were having it hard, we were fighting all the time and I was
always thinking to myself that there is NO way I could take care of this
baby. December came and I had a break down, I was 4 1/2 months already and I
wanted an ABORTION and wanted it soon. I called my sister and asked her to
drive me to the hospital to get help, I was breaking down. At the time, my
boyfriend didn't know what to do because I was beating on him because he
wasn't helping me with my emotions. So I went to the hospital with my sister
and my sister already had a past abortion and still recovering from it, she
said some words to me that I'll never forget. I walked into the hospital,
already to have this baby taken from me until my sister told me what happen
to her. My sister and I were NEVER close at all until I got pregnant. She
told me how much she wanted her baby and how it killed her inside to kill
her own child, and me being 4 1/2 months already, the baby can already
feel, move, has a heart beat. It took me a while to settle down but I left
that hospital with my sister and my baby. I can't say everything was GREAT
after that, but I did a lot better. I found out I was having a little girl
when I was 5 1/2 months. I carried my daughter to 38 weeks and 2 days.
Giving birth to my daughter was the greatest thing I ever experienced, she
is the most beautiful gift from god. I look at her everyday and thank god
that I kept strong and thank god that I had my sister by my side that day or
my daughter wouldn't be here. Being a first time mom is very hard, but I get
to see her grow and make big smiles at me. I love her with all my heart and
soul and I would never take her back for the world. She is my little ANGEL.
I Love You Haley LynMarie........ I want these other woman and men
know that it's hard but not to give up!

Thank You
A_L_I_C_I_A18@hotmail.com

6/17/01

Thank you for your war on abortion. I want you to know that because of
the efforts of you and people like you I have 5 live and healthy children.
One pregnancy was the result of coerced sex. I was distraught beyond
consolation. In my 8th month I attended a woman's alive conference and was
told by they speaker, whom never had laid eyes on me up until that moment, that the Lord had spoken to her and told her that: Because I had said yes when others had said no He would bless my child... And of course she is a blessing. She is 10 now and is just as incredible as my 4 other blessings from heaven are.

You may edit and use my story for any reason you feel the need. Let rape
victims know there is hope and love in the face of this awful violation.
God is true and blesses those who place their hope in Him.

Thanks again,

Ellen Ryan

 

6/15/01

I was raised in a family that did not believe in abortion.  As a result I've always been pro-life.  I look down highly on those extremist pro-lifers who kill (isn't it the same thing?).  I commend the entire staff, you have my utmost admiration and respect for creating a site such as this.  It gives you the real facts and raw emotions of abortion.  I know many pro-choicers, however, I am convinced that they are not fully aware of the savageness of abortion.  I've never had one, but I do thank you again for having this site.  I am 20 and got pregnant during my last semester (spring 2001) in college.  I was halfway through with school. I'm not married and am not sure of who the father is. I was advised by one of the candidates to get an abortion, that it was the "best decision" I could make.  I realize that abortion is such a selfish act.  I ignored his pleas (it was never even an option).  After reading so many horror stories and seeing videos of abortion "procedures" I got teary eyed.  I've seen and heard my baby boy's heart beat.  I've watched and felt him move inside my womb.  Life is a gift, sometimes unexpected, but it is still a gift.  Everything on the site has only reassured me that I made the right decision.  My sympathy and prayers for every woman and young girl who has had to deal with this atrocity. Again, thanks.

 
Sincerely,
 
Meahdi

Meahdi,
You are fortunate that you were surrounded by "pro-lifers" as you grew.
My family was also but, I found the influence of friends to be most strong,
as my family was quite dysfunctional... I went to college with many women
that underwent abortions - one woman, 3 times... I think I just walked
around in a fog those days... I have so much respect for you - knowing this
strongly what is right and what is not... Think I spent that time simply
trying to figure it all out - when the answers were actually right there for
me to see...
Yes - this life is never convenient it seems. Not much happens as
planned. There is daily "unexpectedness" I find... And to accept this - and
simply hold strong to what you believe is what is required. I am sad that
you do not know who the father is but... yes, this child deserves life. You
have made the right decision. Please let us know how your pregnancy is going
- and when this child arrives to this crazy, wondrous world! Best Wishes
Meahdi.
Sincerely,
Patti Zachow
AbortionTVStaffVolunteer

6/14/01

I want everyone to know that abortion is murder.  I was pressured by family and friends to get an abortion.  I knew in my heart that it seemed wrong.  I had an unplanned pregnancy but I took my responsibility.  now my son is 3 months old and has cute and healthy as can be.  there are other options and I hope everyone will get the chance to look through this site and know the
truths about abortion.

Luv

Luv, thanks for sharing your story of courage -- doing the right thing in spite of the pressures and motives of others.  We're also posting this at Baby Not Slaughtered! as an inspiration to others.

AbortionTV
 

6/14/01

Let me get a few definitions clear :

Baby Killing - Killing of a baby inside or outside mother's womb,

surgically/Row Vs. Wade or through other means/non Row Vs.

Wade.

Murderer - A person who takes the life of a human being - surgically or non- surgically.

Pro-choicer / pro-abortion - A person who supports killing of babies surgically/Row Vs Wade,

- supports killing of old/disable people/euthansia

- supports experimentation on human babies

- strives to gather support to have these killings "legalized".

Pro-life - A person who respects human and other forms of life and considers it ethically and morally incorrect to take human life surgically or non-

surgically.

1. For hundreds of years now, as a civilization we have all strived to generate maximum respect for human right to life and liberty. We consider killing of another human or even an animal for fun, as an UNCIVIL act.

2. We have enacted laws which punish a person even by death, if he/she takes the life of another human being. Timothy McVeigh was executed yesterday for taking life of other human beings.

3. It is known to humans since eternity that humans give birth to other human beings. And after

conception another life is born within a woman's womb. (Some people might like to consult ancient medical texts from China and India to check "eternity" and give some credit to human intelligence and value SYSTEMS).

4. It has been proved time and again in history that man made laws (especially in courts) which do not command the approval of people's conscience, prove to be most repressive and harmful to humanity. (Please scroll down to read Mathew's reply to Mark.)

My question to pro-lifers who are scared of their "image" and being "stereotyped" by baby killers is :

A person inspite of knowing/seeing "little arms and legs kicking and moving, a heart beating, a brain, stomach, bladder, spine, and babies sucking their thumbs" and knowing that "it's no longer just tissue even at three weeks", still goes ahead to say "Please keep in mind...abortion is a choice and no one has to have one...and no one should be forced to have one." .

How do you expect people like me to respond to such UNCIVIL behavior ? By being civil ? Why were we not civil to Timothy McVeigh then ? Because he was not civil to others. Right ?

I am PROUD of ALL pro-lifers howsoever they might have been "bracketed" by baby killers. Image conscious pro-lifers must note that if every body started being conscious of what other people would think if they said the truth and broke hypocrisy, then THIS site would not be there.

free

6/13/01

I just want to say thank you. I'm 21 and I have 3 children ages 4, 22 months and 2 months. I thought I was Pro-Choice but found out I wasn't when I went to have an abortion out of town because I was 20 weeks with my youngest daughter. When I got to the clinic which was really dirty and was falling apart, people were protesting in front and they are what saved my baby's life, telling me I shouldn't do it and I'm so thankful for that. And on the way home that day was the first time I felt her kick, I don't know what I would do without her now. No one ever said it was easy to have kids but there's always a way no matter what. There's so many people there are out there that want babies and people are just killing them like they're nothing. There are support groups and other things that can help you keep your baby, you just have to look. While reading this site, I keep looking at my daughter and thinking how that could have been her. Thank you for putting up this site and making people aware of what it's really like.

Jamie

Ontario

Thanks for sharing your story, Jamie, we're also posting it at Baby Not Slaughtered!

AbortionTV

 

6/12/01

I want to quote something from an article in Steven Etlerts pro-life news today.

"Some OB/GYN doctors also offer ultrasound services in their offices. Dr. Wendell Ashby has offered sonography in his Amarillo, Texas,
office for the past nine years. "We are a visual society," he said. "[Mothers] can't handle their conscience saying, 'You're killing your
baby.' When they see little arms and legs kicking and moving, a heart beating, a brain, stomach, bladder, spine, and babies sucking their
thumbs, it's no longer just tissue. [These women] say they had no idea -- they thought it was just a little tadpole in there."

People who think in terms of "choice" even after knowing all this are a shame to humanity.

free

Okay, perhaps this makes me a hypocrite, but I dont believe people who have had abortions should be called murderers. Doing so makes us look just as bad as people picture pro-lifers. I will never call a woman who has had an abortion a murderer...I would try to help her, counsel her, and be a friend if needed. People do make mistakes, and yes, it takes a life. That is a horrible act, but some people truly are ignorant to the real truth behind abortion. Criticizing these people wont make them believe us...it will make them fear us, and we shouldnt lay a scrutinizing gaze on others without first gazing at ourselves. I am likely to be more pro-life than the Gods themselves, but I do not think we can make this world a better place, by pointing fingers and calling names. Its childs-play, and I would never have a part of it. I will, however, offer an opinion, or a shoulder to someone who needs it. Never would I become a 'stereotypical' pro-lifer, as people are beginning to call us.

Jillian
AbortionTV Volunteer

Dear Free,

I have read many of the abortion experiences women have had an most do include an ultrasound before the abortion. This will allow the OBGYN to see how far along the woman is. They also do an ultasound to verify the pregnancy. There are women who will see the ultra sound and go on with an abortion and some that won't. You have shown your true feelings about abortion, the women that have them and the people that support them. This is your view and what you believe..they are "baby killers", a "shame to humanity". You have even asked if we should be civil to each other because baby killers don't deserve it. I have learned from this site that not all pro-lifers are like you..and it is sad that you will not show an iota of symphathy for women who have had abortions and those who support and care for them.
I know that there are extremes to every side of the issue but I hope you will open your heart and allow some feelings besides this anger you display to filter in.
Yes, I am pro-choice but I strive for a lower percentage of abortions and someday to make them non-existant. I think that is something both sides are striving for in the end.

crist76

6/11/01

I am 23 years old. I believe that a child has a right to live but, I
also believe that I child is not being murdered till it can live on it on which is after
seven months the child has a good chance to live. I am a mother of two with on on the
way. I made my choice but, I can not make that choice for everyone. I do not think
that aboriton should be outlawed just controlled. I do not agree with useing it as a
birth control. It is hard enough to make it without spending $500 dollar ever time you
screw up! I love my kids with all my heart. I will all ways be pro-choice!!!!!
Sincerly,
Jacqueline T

At what exact moment on which day does an unborn become "human?" Quoting our section on Answers to Pro Choice arguments�. "Like toddler and adolescent, the terms embryo and fetus do not refer to non-humans, but humans in a particular stage of development. Fetus is a Latin word meaning "young one" or "little child." Is stage of development related to a person�s worth? Is a two-year old worth less than a 6-year-old, etc? From the moment of conception the unborn is not simple, but very complex. The newly fertilized egg contains a staggering genetic information, sufficient to control the individual�s growth and development for an entire lifetime. Prior to the earliest first-trimester abortions, the unborn already has every body part she will ever have. At 18 days, after conception, the heart is forming and the eyes start to develop. By 30 days, she has multiplied in size ten thousand times. She has a brain and blood flows through her veins. By 42 days, the skeleton is formed and the brain is controlling the movement of the muscles and organs. After the first trimester, nothing new develops or begins functioning. The child only grows and matures." Based on your stated position, you�re ignoring axiomatic biological evidence to support a position that encourages the slaughter of millions of babies throughout the world.

AbortionTV

If you read the letters on this site it can be very confusing. They advocate both the baby and the mother's life being equal but at the same time some feel it would be selfish of you to put your life ahead of your unborn child.
What if you have children at home and no husband or family to take care of them? Should you leave them without a mother for the sake of your unborn?
Maybe some would and some would not but neither should be thought selfish of their choice.

As with anything else there are several definations to fetus..it depends onwhere you look. Fetus is Latin and it can mean offspring.

Life begins at conception..should we protect the fetus from that point? Should birth control be banned? Should a woman who has a miscarriage have to
report it to the police? These are valid issues that no one wants to touch...and that's too bad.

crist76

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